Police Funding Millage to go Before Rochester Hills Voters in August

City leaders say the millage won't be a tax increase, but a renewal and shift in the way things are funded.

Rochester Hills voters will be presented in August with a proposition that will continue the funding of police services in the city. 

It won't be a millage increase, city leaders say, thought it may seem that way at first. The proposal, if approved, will renew for 10 years the 1.2083 mills that expire in 2014. It will also levy up to 2.5 mills that will be dedicated to police funding, but that 2.5 mills will be reduced from the general fund.

So it wouldn't be a millage increase, supporters said — just a "status quo" shift in the way the police services are funded.

Police services in Rochester Hills are contracted through the . That costs about $9 million a year. 

The funding question will be on the Aug. 7 primary election ballot. The proposal is the result of a residents-driven effort: a technical review committee has held more than 50 meetings over the past few years to discuss possible methods of continuing the funding, City Council President Greg Hooper said.

Councilmembers approved the ballot proposal Monday night with a 6-1 vote. Councilmember Ravi Yalamanchi voted no, saying he was in favor of a straight renewal.

The technical review committee also suggested councilmembers consider another ballot question that would ask for an additional .4 mills to fund added officers. Councilmembers did not take up this question, so it will not be on the August ballot.

Scot Beaton June 18, 2012 at 02:18 AM
Dee, Had a great Father's Day... Don't let the "name calling" discourage you from any blog in the Patch... many of us respect your opinions... to agree to disagree is a lost art in this country... look at how (very bad word goes here) congress is; LOL. Both my kids are in their mid-20's and they and friends have all kinds of horror stories about cops... The City of Rochester cops are quite well know to be verbally abusive and quite rude to our young adults... so I know where your coming from... but as a former member of the RH city council my "expertise" tell me we need more cops... but unfortunately (name calling goes here) our Mayor and City Council don't have the intelligence to put a simple renewal on the ballot... and this proposal to quote Lee will go down in flames... they will come begging back to the voters for a straight up renewal in November lets hope they get it.
Scot Beaton June 18, 2012 at 02:49 AM
Doug, I couldn't agree with you any more... thanks for your comments! Still don't know why they are asking for 2.5 mills... as a former member of the RH City Council who still reads every budget cover to cover, we only spend about 1.5 mills of "general fund dollars"on a contract with the Oakland County Sheriff the rest of the funding comes from a voter approved millage; and how dumb does it get... tomorrow night there going to spend 25K because they think we're stupid? My strongest suggestion would be to get rid all 8 RH elected officials. Doug did you know a few months back all 7 city council members spent 60K on a contract with an architect to design a $300,000++ building to put road salt in. And this plan came endorsed form our Mayor's office!
Scot Beaton June 18, 2012 at 03:10 AM
Jeremy Your idea is brilliant... and when Avon Township became Rochester Hills that was the that was the intent... unfortunately our local government continues to move opposite of that direction.
Scot Beaton June 18, 2012 at 03:29 AM
Doug, There was a very intelligent recommendation form the citizens committee for a straight renewal... and a separate proposal for a 0.4-mill increase to hire about 11 new officers... that idea fell on deaf ears... again I don't understand why there is no intelligence among our elected officials; they won't even listen to their own citizens committee! If you own a $200,000 house... max this would have been a increase of only $40 bucks per year. I gladly would have supported this tax increase.
james.stevensforsheriff June 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Well this is a tax increase to tax payers, taking police funding out on a seperate bill, increase huge spending in the general fund. instead of cutting spending.
james.stevensforsheriff June 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Yes you are right lets keep taxes low
james.stevensforsheriff June 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM
yes you are so right, i like lower taxes as well
james.stevensforsheriff June 18, 2012 at 11:34 AM
i live here as well, so you add one more to keep us safe.
james.stevensforsheriff June 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Lets keep the police fund and live with in our means, we dont need higher taxes, but good police keeps us safe, as sheriff i plan to reduce watseful spending and keep taxes low, but work on crime areas and serving our cities, i live in rochester hills for over 25 years as well, no one likes higher taxes and that includes me as well. James Stevens for Sheriff vote aug 7 primary.
Daryl Patrishkoff June 18, 2012 at 02:57 PM
James, I like what you are saying, however what are the details? Since you are running for office it would be great to see your plan to live within our means. For me that will get my vote, how you plan on achieving these goals, not just statements. Please let us know where we can go to see your plan. Thanks,
james.stevensforsheriff June 18, 2012 at 03:06 PM
YES AS SHERIFF, I PLAN TO CUT COST, BUT NOT BY LAYOFFS, HAVE FUND RAISING EVENTS, PRIVATE DONATIONS, BUT KEEP TAXES LOW, LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS. I PLAN TO FUND A NEW BOOT CAMP WITH MY OWN MONEY AND PRIVATE FUNDING IF NEEDED, (NO MORE TAXES). Stevens would not have spent the 700,000 on amoured vehicles, but if there is more than one, we should look at selling them, and no i dont plan on spending tax payers money. Lets work on larger crime area's and work with the citizens to resolve issues. I have a plan to rid area's of crime at NO added cost to the TAX PAYERS
Jeremy Nielson June 18, 2012 at 04:10 PM
How much is the Sheriff's budget - and how much do you plan to cut it by? What was the cost expended by the Department to run the boot camp? How much do you expect the camp to cost in 2013? Why do you believe the Sheriff has the ability to raise taxes? Certainly Mike Bouchard has never raised taxes in his 12 years in the role.
james.stevensforsheriff June 18, 2012 at 04:28 PM
I plan to lower taxes, and the Boot Camp will come from my personal expenses not the tax payer, i guess your not use to someone being responsible with tax payers money.
Jeremy Nielson June 18, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Well that's not a good sign - when the person running for office has no idea how much their budget is... and promises to cut costs, but can't identify how much they plan to cut. Not a good sign at all.
Ted Skandy June 18, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Is this actually James Stevens or are you referring to yourself in the third person?
Ted Skandy June 18, 2012 at 05:13 PM
I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe that this is the person representing himself as a candidate for Sheriff given those responses.
james.stevensforsheriff June 18, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Well you see the sameFat cats in office, once elected they cant remember what they stand for. Well i hope to make a change of that. plus i'm very conservative.
james.stevensforsheriff June 18, 2012 at 05:23 PM
Ted go find a real JOB.
james.stevensforsheriff June 19, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Ted Skandy June 19, 2012 at 07:59 PM
You mean like a politician wannabe?
Ted Skandy June 19, 2012 at 08:39 PM
I find it interesting that you have a plan to rid areas of crime at no cost to the taxpayers, Why wouldn’t you offer the plan to our community? Why not step up to the plate as a concerned citizen and do all you can to improve your city for the benefit of your neighbors and local businesses? Why do you have to be an elected official to implement change rather than a regular citizen with an idea? It sounds very self-serving to claim you have all the answers but will only reveal them if the people elect you. Makes me question who you would be serving, the people or yourself.
Ted Skandy June 19, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Are you certain that the Sheriff's Department paid for that armored vehicle? I've only seen one military 'style' vehicle which I understood to be donated to the Sheriff by a AT Central Systems Inc. Here's the link for an armored car donation I found on-line-- http://www.oakgov.com/boc/assets/docs/minutes/min_05/05_11_10.pdf Are you talking about another armored vehicle or simply confused about your facts? Thinking about this donation, it's another example of a citizen displaying their willingness to help without having to be elected.
Ted Skandy June 21, 2012 at 01:17 PM
As I expected, Mr Stevens has chose not to respond to my comments regarding his so-called crime reducing plans and the armored car he mentioned.
james.stevensforsheriff June 21, 2012 at 01:36 PM
Ted there was one vehicle that was donated to the county, far as reducing crime i plan to work 7 days a week myself and meeting with the residents that are having issues, the city of Pontiac needs alot of attenion, too much crime there and guns on the street, if you like i will invite you to join me when i walk the streets of pontiac so are you game......
Ted Skandy June 22, 2012 at 03:41 PM
So it appears that you didn't have your facts straight on the armored vehicles and since I directed you to the link I guess I'm aware of what was donated. As for walking the streets of Pontiac with you, why would I do that? What purpose/benefit would my accompanying you walking around Pontiac serve? What do you intend to do while walking around Pontiac? Besides lowering taxes that you can not lower as Sheriff, what experience do you have in law enforcement?
james.stevensforsheriff June 22, 2012 at 04:14 PM
Well City hall would have the extra money if they didnt spend the 35 million plus when the addition was added on. Seems government finds it easy to spend tax our tax dollars, many projects only get a few bids and the terms of the contracts are not easy for the contractors which results in over priced bids which we are the ones left holding the bag. Some Cities spend like drunken sailors then when tough times hit our basic needs of police budgets are always targeted due to poor long term planning. As Sheriff i plan to set goals to save tax payers money and still serve the public 7 days a week and remove crime from the area's needed. Oakland County needs to be a place that the thugs and criminals fear most.
Ted Skandy June 22, 2012 at 04:46 PM
You really don't have a clue on what you're talking about. I thought you were just trying to be funny. Drunken sailors - pretty funny... These are expiring millages. EXPIRING. What does that have to do with long range planning? So you really don't have a plan and you've never been involved in law enforcement?
james.stevensforsheriff June 22, 2012 at 05:13 PM
I guess TED you dont know how to balance a check book, Yes the millages expired and because government does spend like drunken Sailors Our US government is going bankrupt as well if you havent noticed. Well far as Law enforcement i will be the best Sheriff in Michigan for our Citizens. One more thing anyone that is having issues with crime or other matters willbe able to call me personally and i will meet with anyone that needs my attenion and willbe available 7 Days a week unlike most in office.
Lisa June 30, 2012 at 02:22 PM
I agree with you! Other reasons not to vote for it......large fund balances and are roads suck! Number one responsibility of the city is safety so the money should come out of general fund! The city is doing really great but families are still hurting. They should have included a simple renewal of current police millage and I don't trust them since they didn't include the renewal!
Lisa June 30, 2012 at 02:41 PM
And the Charter design is to pay police so taxes stay low in Rochester Hills. Barnett wants more money to play and his slush fund. We have 27 million fund balance 108% of projected revenue for 2013. Have you tried to get FOIA or information from Rochester Hills or OPC. They charge big bucks missing the FREEdom Of Information Act right for the homeowner or voter .


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