Tom McMillin's Latest Campaign Literature Is A LIE!

Tom McMillin's latest campaign literature lies to voters in Rochester, Rochester Hills and Oakland Township. He doesn't deserve your vote.

Tom McMillin is purposely misleading voters in the 45th district.  His latest mailer has a headline, "When some politicians in Lansing wanted to tax your pension, Tom McMillin said, 'No.'"

Tom McMillin is a liar.  According to the web site Vote Smart, Tom McMillin voted yes to begin to tax pension of retirees under the age of 67.  

How can voters in Rochester, Rochester Hills and Oakland Township trust Tom McMillin when he consistently lies to his constituents.

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Mike Reno October 25, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Talk about putting adults first... The public schools system -- and the MEA -- hold our children hostage. The state assigns you a school, and if that system is not meeting the needs of your child, then too bad for the child. Your support of the status quo benefits the adults in the system, not the children. Tom is trying to find ways to free our children, and help find a better education solution for families and their children. And I wonder if you really see how you insult parents with your rants about charters. First, you show a complete disregard for the well-being of the child, and care more about the system. And then you assume that these parents are simply stupid and will blindly choose to send their children to what you perceive as inferior schools, presumably so they can enrich some education entrepreneur they don't even know? Even if there was some nefarious purpose for creating charters -- WHICH THERE IS NOT -- it's success would depend on people VOLUNTARILY moving their children. There is no logic to support your demagoguery.
Bruce Fealk October 25, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Tom receives campaign contributions from the for-profit education companies and they are beholden to their shareholders for producing profits. Tom is interested in helping his private supporters from those companies and helping them make profits at the expense of our children. To say Tom is really interested in educating our children, is like saying the defense industry's main interest is protecting America. These greedy corporations are interested in making profits, period. The MEA has our children's interests at heart and also having teachers be compensated fairly for the job that they do educating our children. We can make our schools better and educate our children better, but not by taking money out of the public school system and handing that money over to greedy corporations who put profits over students.
Kristen Famiano October 25, 2012 at 12:35 PM
The changes to the state pensions are unconstitutional. Once you pay a certain amount for your pension and lock that in, it is unconstitutional to change this. It is amazing to me how the courts are finding many legislative bills that were passed unconstitutional....with even conservative judges. I can agree to disagree with you on the MEA comments...but I have a difficult time voting for someone who disregards the constitution....and then wastes tax payer dollars challenging these decisions in court. Say what you will on Proposal 2, but at least the proper channels were followed, and we are not making up our own rules. Unconstituitional legislation = demogoguery X 1,000
Paul Sprague October 25, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Charter/Cyber schools for are for profit operations. The adults running them are using kids like ATM machines. Tom is promoting them because he has a financial interest in charters schools and receives nearly all of this campaign contributions from them. Rochester is just a squatting place for him until Papageorge's Senate Seat is up (Troy area). McMilin is a career politician and makes money through charter schools.
Mike Reno October 25, 2012 at 01:22 PM
You say "profit" as if it is a dirty word. Not sure why it is a problem for a non-government entity to provide better service for lower cost, and allow the operator to be rewarded. But let's skip that philosophical disagreement. Describe for me how you think these people and their children are forced into these charters?
Paul Sprague October 25, 2012 at 01:34 PM
The main goal isn't education. It is profit. Employee turnover is rampant in charters. Charters can also discriminate more easily leaving disabled children without the level of service provided by public schools. Given Tom's record, I also suspect that he would support a bill similar to a current one in the state of Lousiana that would allow charter schools to deny admission to gay students. Lousiana might be a better place for Tom McMillin http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/is-louisiana-about-to-allow-discrimination-of-gays-in-charter-schools/2012/04/03/gIQAJtiqtS_blog.html
Bruce Fealk October 25, 2012 at 01:46 PM
"You say "profit" as if it is a dirty word. Not sure why it is a problem for a non-government entity to provide better service for lower cost, and allow the operator to be rewarded." Mike, there you go again. The for-profits do not run these schools at a lower cost. They get paid the same amount as the public schools receive per pupil. On top of there, here' something people don't know. Charter/Cyber schools often take in students that are not cut out to be in charter school and they do not have to accept every student, like public schools do. Charters try to keep students until the official student count happens, then they say to some students they are not qualified to be at the charter school and the money that they receive for that student stays with the charter school and does not follow the student for that semester. This is another way the for-profit school reaps extra profits that the public doesn't know about. The charters schools do not have to provide classes like music, art, sports, etc., and they don't have to, in the case of cyber schools, provide buildings, yet they receive the same compensation. Republicans talk about wealth redistribution as a bad thing and taking public money and redistributing it to private education corporations is the worst example of redistribution.l
Mike Reno October 25, 2012 at 02:25 PM
Kinda pointless to try to have a discussion when you dodge questions and change the subject. Even more so when it is filled with conjecture and speculation. Charters are voluntary. People choose them because they believe they are better alternatives for their children. It is beyond me to understand why anyone would deny opportunity to those families.
Mike Reno October 25, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Bruce, the math works like this: Per Pupil Allowance MINUS cost = profit. So, in order for there to be any of this sinister profit, then the cost must be lower. And the other thing, aside from you thinking that the parents are too stupid to choose, is that you also seem to think so little of the dedicated teachers that work at these schools. You think that a teacher is only deserving of respect if they are MEA members employed at a traditional public school?
Bruce Fealk October 25, 2012 at 03:02 PM
So, what you're saying, Mike, is that the charter schools make a profit by lowering teacher salaries and benefits so they can make a profit. I never said the parents are too stupid to choose. What I am saying is that the more dollars that are taken out of the public school system, the more they have to do with even less money, a recipe for disaster in public education if I ever saw one. So, under your model, we have a self fulfilling prophecy of destroying public education in the United States.
Dan Welch October 25, 2012 at 03:05 PM
Mr Reno, you are the only person who takes shots at teachers, public or private. Your candidate is a bigot and profits personally from the schools that he promotes. Teachers, students and parents deserve better than Mr McMillin.
Mike Reno October 25, 2012 at 03:09 PM
Yes, Bruce, this would help to end the monopoly that public education holds. It would force them to be responsible and accountable to parents. So why are you critical of parents choosing alternatives to traditional public schools? Why do you insist on keeping kids trapped in a school that might not be effective for them?
Mike Reno October 25, 2012 at 03:10 PM
Dan, you are making that up. I take shots at the MEA because it protects the weak teachers and stands in the way of reward the really good teachers. I do not take shots at teachers.
Joshua Raymond October 25, 2012 at 03:25 PM
Bruce, you have made this claim about dumping students before, but have not yet provided an article to back it up. Please do so. As for admissions to charter schools, here is what the state of Michigan has to say about it at http://www.michigan.gov/documents/PSAQA_54517_7.pdf 19. May a charter school be selective in its admissions policy? Except as prescribed in law, a charter school may not be selective in its enrollment process. It may not screen out students based on disability, race, religion, gender, test scores, etc. It may predetermine the ages, grades, and number of students it will serve. A random selection process must be used if the number of applicants exceeds the school’s enrollment capacity.
Dan Welch October 25, 2012 at 03:25 PM
What about protecting weak kids? Charters do not. Public schools do. I guess you and Tom think Darwinism should rule in regards to disabled children. Tom gets hefty donations from BCBS to vote against early intervention coverage for autistic kids.
Mike Reno October 25, 2012 at 03:31 PM
Dan, your comments are bitter and unreasonable. If you want to discuss something, then make a rationale point. Assigning silly motives does nothing to advance a discussion. It's akin to name-calling on the playground.
Dan Welch October 25, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Mr. Reno, your comments appear to be bitter and unreasonable as well. I find it sad that you promote someone like Tom McMillin. Fortunately he will not make it far in politics. His message of bigotry and intolerance surely puts a clear ceiling to his rise.
Bruce Fealk October 25, 2012 at 03:51 PM
Joshua, I spoke to a member of the Michigan School Board and she's not aware of a study or article to back up what I said in my post, and charter schools can't discriminate ahead of time. However, what happens practically is that let's say a special education student is in a for-profit school, the school finds a reason to dump that student because they are too expensive to educate. The school that special ed student goes to can apply to have the money follow the student, but often, as a practical matter, that doesn't happen and that money stays with the for-profit charter as profit. Also, for-profits also do pay lower wages, do not participate in pension programs, do not have to provide transportation for students, yet receive the same per pupil dollars as public schools. All those things for-profits don't have to provide go to profit for the charter school. On top of that, the for-profit schools have no accountability as far as quality of education, which is something Tom McMillin has been questioned repeatedly about but he has yet to answer that issue adequately.
Mike Reno October 25, 2012 at 03:54 PM
The have the ULTIMATE accountability... if they do not satisfy the educational needs of parents, then the parents move their children. Traditional public schools, on the other hand, have no incentive to meet the needs of your child.
Joshua Raymond October 25, 2012 at 04:06 PM
Bruce, did you hear that Donald Trump claims that President Obama wasn't born in the United States? I understand he heard it from someone he trusts, but doesn't have a shred of evidence to back it up. I happen to think that such huge claims should be backed up or not made.
Dan Welch October 25, 2012 at 04:12 PM
Sound like a Tom McMillin quote about Fuzzy math and fuzzy science. Joshua, just admit you aren't an impartial person in this election.
Bruce Fealk October 25, 2012 at 04:15 PM
Joshua, I'll stick with my source as accurate and believable, thanks. Donald Trump is a whole other story and he has proven over time that he is NOT reliable as a source of information. As for Mike's comments, public schools about accountability, decreased funding and bigger class sizes makes it harder and harder to do the job our public school teachers are trained to do. Most teachers don't need any incentive other than to do what they are trained to do, which is to educate our children and for-profit schools don't perform any better than public schools and often perform worse than public schools. http://www.mlive.com/education/index.ssf/2012/03/in_michigan_charters_results_n.html
Roger Roger October 25, 2012 at 04:19 PM
doug October 25, 2012 at 05:04 PM
We need to seperate the discussion about teachers and the MEA. I think 95% of teachers are good. You will always have some that aren't in any profession. It is your typical bell curve. A small % are outstanding, a small % are bad and the vast majority are in the middle. The MEA has simply gotten to powerful and has too much control. Every member of the Rochester School Board was backed by the MEA. That doesnt necessarily mean they are all in their back pocket, but it is a troubling fact. They are the same one's who negotiate the contracts. The MEA protects the bad part of the bell curve. They resist teacher incentives for the top of the curve, etc...
Chris Gill October 27, 2012 at 09:29 AM
But that's just it, Mike. There are very few charters (if any) that offer a better service, they just offer the state a lower price! How is that benefiting anyone except a few charter operator's? Anyone have Clark Durant and his daughter's annual compensation released earlier this year? I remember reading about it and it was completely ridiculous what they got for the small amount of pupils that they serve. And you complain about public superintendents' salaries? That's rich. I am not against profits at all, but there are a real problems when you make "profit" and "public education" go hand in hand at the expense of public schools. And please do not suggest that charters are not public schools, they are. They are public schools without some of the hand tying behind our back that public schools face.
Chris Gill October 27, 2012 at 09:36 AM
*Cough, cough* Mike, when is the last time I, as a public education employee, felt any kind of respect coming my way , especially from Lansing? Oh let me see... several years ago! And it's only because I BELONG to the MEA and not because of my work product because they really have no clue about me as an individual employee of a public school. You can respect me and you can pay me what I deserve for the fine job that I do for kids and parents. Let me ask you why charter school teachers, in your mind, only deserve respect and not a fair annual compensation????
Chris Gill October 27, 2012 at 09:50 AM
Well Mike Reno you have exposed the whole truth as I know it to be. Public schools are the MEA (in your mind). Republicans are afraid of the MEA's political power, ergo the MEA is an evil empire. The evil empire must go. Next fairy tale, please? At least be honest. I know why you do not like Rochester schools, and you have some legitimate beefs. But do not throw the baby out with the bathwater please. Why don't you go investigate the entire public school system in MI instead of quoting a few bad state school report cards (that change like your underwear, by the way) and stop lumping every district, school, and MEA member into this imaginary plot of MEA world domination to ill educate children and laugh in the publics' face while doing it it? I mean really investigate them at the building, student, employee, parent level. What you will find will be eye opening I am sure. The good, the bad and the ugly will be revealed to you, but I bet that you will be surprised at all the good that we do under very challenging circumstances. I offer you an open invitation to shadow me at work any day. Let me know your schedule so I can make arrangements with my boss.
Chris Gill October 27, 2012 at 09:55 AM
Mike as a MEA member (and I am a very good public school employee) I do not want it to go away because I need it to protect me from people like Tom McMillin! Don't even talk to me about merit pay until the politicians quit jacking us around. I do not want it, and I am pretty certain that if it was distributed fairly (I am highly doubtful that is possible) I would be receivng some.
Chris Gill October 27, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Uh that is no different than any labor situation or labor union that I know of, but I thank you for supporting my argument that this whole school reform movement in MI is more about killing the MEA than it is about helping children. The tenure laws have changed, bad teachers will be swept out. Problems solved, now back off and leave us alone to do the good job that we do and love to do.
Chris Gill October 27, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Mike my incentive is my own strong work ethic and pride in a job well done. I also would like to remain employed so that is an incentive too. Why do you think parents do not have choices, they most certainly do! If you want an elite, Cranbrook education the state of Michigan cannot afford to provide that for your children. You will have to pay out of pocket.


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