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Tom McMillin on Gifted Education

Rochester SAGE asked Tom McMillin and Joanna VanRaaphorst, candidates for State Representative in Michigan's District 45 questions regarding gifted education.  Here are the responses from Republican Tom McMillin.

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1)      Currently most gifted students in Michigan’s public schools are not being taught at their academic level.  As a legislator, what bills would you support to increase gifted education?

- Legislation that would give more flexibility for schools, teachers and parents to design individualized learning plans for each student.  This year, we in the House approved one way to help with this - by making seat-time waivers easier for schools to obtain, but the Senate has not acted on it, yet.

- Legislation that would give more options for parents who aren't happy with the education their children receive.

- Legislation that would put teeth in current merit pay laws (signed into law by then-Gov. Granholm) to ensure high-quality teachers (including those able to teach gifted students well) are rewarded.

2)      Gifted students make up about 5-7% of the population.  Should taking a class in teaching gifted students be part of becoming a Highly Qualified Teacher?  Why or why not?

- Seems reasonable.  But again, I think the technology and demand is there to push much greater individualized learning for each child, gifted, challenged or wherever a student is for each subject.

- Ensuring merit pay laws are followed would also help ensure high quality teachers are rewarded would help, too.

3)      Schools often claim lack of funding is the primary reason they can’t provide gifted education.  Should the state allocate funds for gifted education?  Why or why not?

- Focus should be on growth of students - wherever the students are in their academic achievement.  Those districts that do a better job growing all students academically, including gifted students, should be rewarded financially.  The focus shouldn't be just on lower performing students, but all children.

4)      Should the state mandate identification or services for gifted and talented education in public schools?  Why or why not?

- I would prefer a "carrot" instead of a "stick" and reward districts that do a good job meeting the needs of and academically growing all students, including gifted students.

- Also, with more choice and options for parents who aren't happy with the education their children receive, all public schools will have to be more aggressive at meeting the needs of all students, including gifted and talented students.  I will work to break down barriers to flexibility for schools to satisfy the needs of all students.  One example of doing this was when we recently expanded dual enrollment for high school students who want to take college-level courses.

5)      Many parents of gifted children believe gifted charter schools are the best option for properly educating gifted learners.  Would you support gifted charter schools?  Why or why not?

- Currently, charter schools must, like all other public schools, take all who want to attend, as long as there are seats available...changing that to allow charters to take certain gifted students and reject other applicants would be quite a change in policy and would need to be thoroughly vetted for fairness and unintended consequences.  It seems if school districts wanted to open a charter school of their own to focus on gifted students, that might be a direction to move toward, initially.

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You can read more about Tom McMillin and his positions on issues that affect our community at www.taxpayersfortom.com.

Please join us at Rochester SAGE.  Together we can make a difference for gifted children!

Joshua Raymond

11:56 am on Monday, October 22, 2012

Thank you to Tom McMillin for his answers regarding gifted education legislation!

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Kristen Famiano

6:49 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Gifted students are NOT the ones going for Seat Time Waivers in the majority of the cases. The Michigan Merit Curriculum was a Republican initiated non funded mandate. This required schools to focus on low achieving students. We are finally looking at the Honors population. Gifted does not equal Honors/AP. Gifted educational opportunities are needed absolutely.

More importantly...Public Schools have the capability to offer the most choice for students in EVERY career pathway. Charter schools and Seat Time Waivers don't
even come close.

Tom McMillin needs to focus on the Rochester area first and stop creating a system that will hurt our public schools. As a school counselor, I work with ALL students...even the ones who have a STW. He needs a reality check.

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Joshua Raymond

8:30 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Kristen, while public schools have the capability to offer gifted educational opportunities, many choose not to. Based on Mr. McMillin's and Ms. VanRapphorst's answers or other public information, do you see a legislative method to direct gifted education in our schools?

I really appreciate that you understand that honors & AP are not gifted education. It seems few people get this.

Could you provide more information on who is applying for STWs, including rough percentages? I wouldn't expect gifted to be the majority, but how many are for gifted students?

I am also not a fan of the MMC, believing that we need a diversified curriculum preparing students for varied jobs. Someone going into the skilled trades needs different courses than a prep student heading into medicine. "One size fits all" often fits few.

Kristen Famiano

12:55 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

The closest piece of legislation that could potentially benefit gifted and talented is The Post Secondary Options Act, dealing with Dual Enrollment. I also like the Early/Middle College options that have become available. The International Schools are a good option, but you do not have to be gifted and talented to get in. The same goes for Advanced Math/Science/Technology Programs.

Here is the issue with gifted and talented....we don't assess this and identify these students. To enact any of this would require further standardized testing and training for teachers. We are slowly moving back to tracking...and educators need more training and appropriate class sizes.

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Kristen Famiano

12:56 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Students using the STW are mainly failing students and home schooled students...but mainly failing students. Some have attendance issues on top of the classroom struggles. Much of these issues are an extension of the home...so having these kids stay home doesn't make any sense. It is simply a way for districts to make money. Legislators need to develop more career centers and take another look at the MMC. Students have very few options for career exploration and electives. Because we do not test for gifted and talented...I can't give you percentages.

In the future, I would like to see legislation mandating identifying these kids at least to start, using a state wide assessment tool. Maybe down the road...we can at least offer enrichment, maybe with community colleges and high schools for the middle schoolers.

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Joshua Raymond

4:33 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Kristen, thank you very much for your well thought out comments. There are legislators who want to help gifted children, but may not understand the best ways to do so. Unfortunately, there are also legislators who are OK with the status quo, with each district deciding whether to have any gifted education programs or identification.

It is tough for legislators to come out in support of gifted education legislation, as to many it seems like proposing bills favoring the 1%ers. It sometimes seems like legislators do more to create opportunities and laws that gifted students can use than laws tailored to gifted students. Having a focus on growth over simply proficiency can be helpful to gifted students, but is written for all students. Charter schools and STW can be helpful for gifted students, but can also help all students. Of course, everyone has their own opinions about whether these laws are helpful or harmful, but it is our duty as advocates for gifted children to let legislators that are willing to help gifted students what type of laws would be effective.

While it would be wonderful if Mr. McMillin and Ms. VanRaaphorst are reading this and similar dialogues to see what their constituents want, the most effective method is probably to contact them with ways they can help gifted learners.

Ted Golden, M.D.

10:21 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

The Roeper School is the best school for gifted children in Greater Detroit. Their educational philosophy and methods should be observed, studied, and emulated by schools and educators who want to teach gifted children.

Public schools would do a better job teaching gifted and not so gifted students if they became more Roeper like.

One great advantage that Roeper has is summed up in one of its recruiting slogans. "Roeper is the place for students who love to learn."

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Erin

10:08 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Joshua - more insightful information. Thanks for helping us unpack these important and complex issues.

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Joshua Raymond

8:17 pm on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Erin, thank you! I'm glad that we could get the candidates' own words on a topic instead of speculation. I was glad each candidate put thought into their responses and were responsive to the request of a community member.

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