This is a good example of bad decisions.

Where is parental supervision and responsibility?

Glad everyone survived - this could have been much worse. My question is: since this was a 2013 Dodge Dart and is not in general release, was this a company car?

You know that Volkswagon ad where the kid says his dad is going to kill him because he dinged the fender? Got nothing on this ad if Dodge wants to copy it.

Disgust. This is all I can muster. Just SIXTEEN? AFTER curfew? Too MANY passengers? DRINKING????? And then add on the fact that the car HAD to have been a company car, which the child shouldn't have been driving anyway. Geeze-louise -- no wonder the kids had such poor judgement, with that kind of parenting as an example. Just how negligent can parents be? Well, THIS shows you. I love the tie in with the VW commercial mentioned above... except this better not just be a case of, "I'm just glad you're OK son." malarkey. This child, and his parents, had better be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. "Poor judgement" doesn't even come close to covering this one. Thank heavens no one was killed... especially the innocent people sitting in their house! Unbelievable...

In the interest of putting correct information out there (I am in NO WAY defending the actions of these kids - their actions disgust me), unless the rules changed in the 9 months since my almost-18-year old got her license, the curfew hours and limit on passengers is only until a new driver reaches 17 years of age, or has had 6 months of restricted driving, which ever comes last. Also, the only rules that change for school and school activities to my knowledge are the times, not the amount of passengers. Just because a 16 year old is driving to school doesn't mean they can have more than one passenger that is not part of teir immediate family (another key part of the restriction - you can have 5 minors in the car but if 4 of them are your siblings, you are not breaking the rules.)

I can't say I am surprised by this story, having a child that just graduated from Stoney and another who will be a junior, I am often amazed at how little supervision some of their "friends" get, how often other parents provide alcohol to their children and their friends and how often kids they know are left alone for an entire weekend to do as they please while their parents travel. My oldest recently told me that the mother of a girl she knows, whose house she has been to a few times, actually does shots with her daughter and her friends in her home. So I guess that is where the parents are at.

16 years old, drinking and driving a car that hasnt been released to the general public.... What kind of people are employed by Chrysler !!!!!!!!! It's good to see that Chrysler built a fine car, that saved the lives of those 5 underage students......

Stoney Creek parent, your absolutely right!!!! The 16 yr old shouldn't of have driven a car at 1am in the morning, and what makes this worst, the underage drinking child was driving a company car..... Makes me wonder of the child should of been driving the car.....

Having lived on Grandview for 23 years and making many presentations to the various city officials about the speeding issues on Grandview, we dodged another one. The speed limit is 25 and speed has been measured at over 70. We need speed humps now and stop signs at every intersection second and then aggressive enforcement 3rd. At my presentations to the city officials I was always asked if there had been anyone injured!!!! Must we kill someone to take some action????

These kids were obviously wrong in being out late, too many people in car and of all things drinking, and of course you wonder where the parents were that allowed this to happen, However, I also wonder about the liablility of those who put large landscape boulders in the easement or rightaway which can most certainly cause a vehicle to flip. I don't know if this was the case her, but the article does mention large landscape boulder. I believe the city is ultimately responsible for what is placed in these areas. I would be interested to hear more on this. Seems that some people at corners or areas where motorists can slide on ice and possibly slide, it would be very dangerous to have boulders placed there where a slight slip could turn into much more and cause injury.

I agree with the speed bumps..( you will not see any speeding at Powderhorn Ridge Rd between Adams and Brewster, these speed humps do the job...) . Stop sign they ignore anyway.. There is a stop sign for the N.Fairview traffic at Grandview.. These guys ignored that one as well at very high speed.. You can see how much damage that boulder even got.. All our streets in that area are full of speeders.... Just walk your dogis not safe anymore..... (and by the way.. school busses are included..) Nobody seems to know what 25 MPH is anymore.. I am starting to record license plates and call them in..

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I agree with the speed humps..( you will not see any speeding at Powderhorn Ridge Rd between Adams and Brewster, these speed humps do the job...) . Stop signs they ignore anyway.. There is a stop sign for the N.Fairview traffic at Grandview.. These guys ignored that one as well at very high speed.. You can see how much damage that boulder even got.. All our streets in that area are full of speeders.... Just walking your dog is not safe anymore..... (and by the way.. school busses are included..) Nobody seems to know what 25 MPH is anymore.. I am starting to record license plates and call them in..

That's why your kid's first car is always a junker. Of the other parents I've met over the years, the ones whose kids got the brand-spanking-new vehicles were the ones who were so spoiled that they ended up either injured, dead, or with a totalled car. When you're kid is driving an older model car that is only good for tooling between home, school, and work, and can't go much over 50mph, it prevents a lot of this nonsense. Worked on all of my kids, nieces, and nephews! Make them earn that shiny new rid, folks. It's a good learning tool.

Spoiled rich kid and entitlement...hope all those kids learned a lesson

On the news this morning I heard the driver isn't giving up the names of the other kids. A shame.

Mistakes were made and people have learned. These kids are my friends and you people have no right to judge them. They made a huge mistake but haven't we all? You're telling me you never drank at our age? And you're kids probably aren't as innocent as you think- were all experimenting and trying to find means of entertaining ourselves; though when something like this happens we learn from it and realize changes must be made in our lives. I love these people and I'm just happy all my friends are alive and well.

Anonymous, point made. Your friends got lucky. Not going to get any sympathy on the under age drinking and going that fast in a neighborhood. I lost one of my best friends since Kindergarden while attending Adams High in the 70s. He and several others skipped a school assembly and were doing the same thing for "entertainment", drinking and speeding. The driver lost control out on a hilly twisting and turning section of Silverbell. As the car was rolling over, my friend without seat belt was partially out of the car.

The car hit a 3 foot diameter willow tree RIPPING him in half! Yes "we" did stupid things too. Some of "us" died!

I heard the sirens - they just kept going. I knew it wasn't far from my home. I prayed for the emergency caregivers and those who needed the help. I hope both young people and parents realize we all have a responsibility for the safety of others and ourselves. There are lessons here for all of us. I'm glad no one was seriously hurt. And for the homeowners - I'm sure it was the LAST thing they ever thought would happen. I'm sorry for the homeowners as well.

I notice that a few of the posts called for more traffic enforcement. Well, folks more traffic enforcement takes more deputies but the citizens of this community time after time turn down the new millages to pay for them. There still is no free lunch- you want more enforcement vote yess the next time an additional police millage is on the ballot

Why is everyone on here acting like this is the first time teenagers have snuck out at night and taken their parents car? I see people blaming Chrysler and landscaping boulders, but let's just leave this at what it is: teenagers being teenagers who made a bad decision.

If the 80's movie "License to Drive" with Corey Feldman and Corey Haim taught us anything, it's that a night out on the town in your parents' stolen car can be both hilarious and a lesson-learning opportunity.

Donna, the whole family cannot test drive the vehicle if it's an M plate. Get your facts straight.

Be thankful everyone survived and have a future, don't recall the mistakes and dwell on their past.

I get the impression that "Anonymous13" was one of the three who fled the scene and left his "friends" behind.

Anonymous "13" sounds like some 13 year old teenager that thinks they have all the answers to life's questions (kind of adorable). I guess that is why the US has 13 year old Presidents. "13", get some smarter friends.

As I type I can hear people "flying" down my street, N. Fairview Lane. This is a constant problem. Lee, I always vote yes regarding police millage and I for one have called the city at least twenty times about this problem. We need speed humps on N. Fairview from E. Fairview to Grandview. It might not solve all of the problems, but it sure will hekp. This is the second house in this subdivison to be hit, maybe somebody will listen now. We heard the car coming doen the road that night, it was UNBELIEVABLE !

Mentor12....you made me laugh. If you have all the info then please share. We assumed it is a test car, but Marty, who seems to be the voice of reason is right, we just don't know. No matter what, those kids messed up but I am glad they survived.

LS…I lived on a street like that once and hated it. I do hope the powers that be take notice and do something for your neighborhood.

Since 2009 there have been three major incidents in North Fairview Farms not counting the mail boxes and damaged parked cars on the streets and also the many lawns that have been drove over. As far as I know mine was the first one where a driver decided to run from the officer that pulled him over for impaired driving. His sped was estimated at over 100 mph when he lost control, took out three mail boxes, side swiped my neighbors tree and then broadsided the first tree he came to in my yard. The second one was on N. Fairview and Tiverton where the car went through the stop at Tiverton (which ends at N. Fairview and went into the house on the other side. Now this one involving a garage and teenagers. All three of these had stop signs involved in which the drivers ignored. Speed humps do need to be placed in our subdivision on N. Fairview and Grandview at least due to the length that these roads are. We also need to block the road off going to the subdivision to the east of us because I have clocked some of those drivers doing over 40 m.p.h. on our streets.

Did not know that I was limited to how much I could put in here. Continued, speed humps cost money and the state and city will not be giving us any for this type of improvement to our subdivision. Last I knew, the state surveys how many fatalities in a period of time at a intersection to install a traffic control device. So if we want speed humps in our subdivision, open up the pocketbooks and I am sure that the association would take action. Since we have no sidewalks, we use the streets to get around by car, bike, and walking and the last two are really not to safe anymore. As for the three incidents in my comment, they where all bad decisions on the drivers part and I am sure that we will have more bad decisions by some. Let us hope that those will not end up in loss of life or injury.

I was in high school just a few years ago (2010 grad). I can vividly remember being 16 and wanting to try new things. But the first rule (and by first, I mean usually the only rule) was you never ever even thought about drunk driving. Anonymous13, nothing you say about 'experimenting' or 'finding entertainment' is the least bit justifiable when it comes to partying and then getting behind the wheel. Glad your friends are ok, but they will learn a lesson in one of the hardest ways possible.
On another note...This was a white Dodge Dart, which is not a production vehicle yet, since only the Red ones have been built in the actual assembly plant. No employee in their right mind would let their son or daughter take out a test vehicle by themselves. It is against the law to have a child driving an M plate automobile UNLESS the employee themself is in the passenger seat...and the employee is held completely liable for any damages.

In conclusion, you don't become an employee of the Big 3 and allow your kid to take the car out. A 16 year old thought it would be cool to take out his dad's COMPANY performance evaluation vehicle (clear lack of respect to authority as well as risking the longevity of the family's financial means), and ending up crashing into a house. Just makes me sick since this stuff keeps happening in Rochester, a notably affluent area. Entitlement seems to lead to this behavior.

Big 3....thank you for the informative post!

Thanks to everyone for the great conversation around this sad news event. Is there anything else you want to know about it that we can chase? For parents on the thread, how are you talking to your children about the crash? For students on the thread, how are you and your peers talking about it?

Still haven't disclosed names of driver or parent involved.......

My older son is a driver education instructor and he will be using this article in his class as to how not to get into trouble. Wow Big 3, this parent who had the car better hope that his son took it without permission. My younger son has yet to do his level two instruction and knows that drinking and driving do not mix. He has yet to have any alcohol and does not intend on it.

About the traffic/speeding/careless driving issues on North Fairview and on Grandview: We talked this morning with Paul Shumejko, the traffic engineer for the city of Rochester Hills. Paul said he and his staff are aware of residents' concerns and have been studying traffic in these subdivisions for the past several years.
In order for "speed humps" to be installed on a city street, the residents or subdivision association would need to approach the city about this — and offer up the funds to pay for it. A project like speed humps usually would take a calendar year to complete and the city would often try to coincide the installation of the speed humps around another construction project in the city to get a better rate.
Would speed humps have prevented this accident? Hard to say. But since some of the commenters brought these issues up, it made sense to ask.

I have talked to Paul, also. The problem with subdivisions paying for the speed humps is that many residents that live on interior streets do not want and will not vote yes to pay for them. Also, N. Fairview runs through several subdivisons and if one association will pay and the other will not then they will not install the speed humps. As far as saying would it prevent the accident, well maybe not, but it would have slowed them down some more. Anyone that even wants to secualte on that should come over here for a few evenings and see what it is like on this street.

I meant speculate, sorry for the typo. At this point and with all of the problems we have had on this street I feel, as do many, that the city needs to do something. This is a matter of safety and it involves several subdivisions.

I have a question......How on earth would you punish your child/children for this act?

No, kids, not every teenager made some "huge mistake" as you say. My dad bought me an old clunker with 200k miles on it, wouldn't let me work until I graduated from high school, and wasn't allowed to get my actual licence until I was over 18 (insurance was cheaper,lol.) I didn't have my first beer until I was in college, and didn't go partying all night when I was still in high school. If I had done what you're so-called "friends" had, my dad, a strict military man, would have called the cops on me himself!

Shame on you!